15 December 2014
This is the FM Gold
channel of AIR, In the Programme News Analysis/Spotlight now we bring you the dialogue on the youth and misuse of technology in
terrorism. Participants are anil Mr.Kamboch former IG BSF, Mrs.Saveetha pandey
security analyst.
The
arrest of a young Indian, tech savvy, executive for the support of terror is
actually an incident, incident in itself reflecting larger reality today; this
is the serious question of youth influenced by a. Biotechnology b. Technology
influencing the spread of terror. There are two aspects to it – 1. Changing pattern of the modality of the
terrorism, 2. The section which following terror are being influential
largely; these are two evolving pattern, rather they have evolved to such an
extent that we see as a result of even a nascent Organisation like IS
attracting so much of attention. The largest twitter was actually Creech your
handle by the sand. The denial is not
withstanding, thus he told the channel 4, this was being done essentially to
take them off his back. Secluded incident notwithstanding, I think it is
important today to see how the youth is being drawn towards the radicalized
front. What are your opinions, I would
say on two senses. 1. Younger generation being attracted to terrorism 2. The
use of younger generation by the Terror Organisation in the pursuit of Terror?
Actually the youth they don’t have any matured mind, and they can be drawn towards any
ideology. Actually these youths are firstly made to more interested in
something, something new. And In case if they get influenced by technology or
by the networking or social networking which is very easily available. They get
influenced in to it and gradually these youth who are not matured whose minds
are not matured they get influenced and gradually they are motivated, motivated
to certain things. Once they get motivate, they gradually radicalized. And this
thus take some time but it’s the easiest way, you don’t have to go to any
madarsha, any training institutions, you don’t have to go anywhere else. In
your leisure time you are being motivated, you’re being radicalized by such
people, by such social networking. Once you get in to it, gradually you are
tossed; and you are trapped in to it. And they give you task to do certain
thing Once you are radicalized you don’t thing, you don’t apply your mind. And
these youth can do anything for particular cause or particular religion. In
this case it was ISIS who was using him, In that he has twitted, and has made
almost what has come in media is 17,000
people following his twit and twitted with him. You can imagine, These
17,000 people must have got influenced,
motivated by what he has twitted and in the same way in which he has been
motivated, radicalized in same
manner these 17k younger generation may be radicalized by his twit, the things
which he have floated to them, teaching what he have told in social Network.
Now you can imagine, 17k younger generation who have got influenced, they can
spread all over. And it is a sort of… I can use a word “cancer” which can
spread all over. And this particular ideology which spreading cannot be ignored
at any stage. Now coming to another part. The people who are matured they don’t
get easily radicalized; they don’t get influenced, because they know the pros
and cons of it. The younger generation they are warm blood, they can do
anything because they are not mature and the older generation they are not much
use to it, the social network which we can FB, twitter which is easily done by
the younger generation, the older people they do not know how to operate. So it
is, so decision for them to go teaching place or to be preached by some
preacher. And here is no preacher or teaching is required except what is
available in the media, this is why the youth is being attracted.
Well, this is also debunked the older model or older saying
that the poor, the poverty drive people to terrorism to crime. And then you
know that’s how you have the can and fodder coming in the terror organization.
If you look in to it, it require an extremely savvy mind for 24 year old
engineer, it just one of the instants, in fact there are instants in other
countries, you can even hear terrorist organization hiring very small children
in terror bomb waiving, and there articulation of it and you see it how fast is
trend some of the modality or you put them in gaming, In gaming you get terror
games you get influenced by it. Even there are games you know which go to
the extent of attacking or killing the heads of the state. All the survey show
that people who are more entertain still you know for entertainment there are
larger section which goes. Now you will see younger generation goes for Entertainment mode and so there is an
attempt to moderate entire modern day technology around entertainment so that
the younger generation attracted towards it.
Then the other section
is what you have to see the other community moves from web 1.0 to 2.0. That is earlier they were information seeking, individually seeking now community seeking and
also information spreading. That is how technology has become attractive.
The other side is these terror organization are sometime smarter than the
states. You will find that the most of the, even the western countries realized
that the reach of the terrorist, goes
farther more tech savvy. And you know that’s how they even grow. So how do
you think, the state can run or take mechanism to stop this, you cannot undo or
tell people not to use internet. Or what you say flipside of it, or tell them
not to go in to gaming. Or tell them…you know…
How is it, will the state can
take steps to check or curb this kind of Technology spread?
Actually it the administrator who so ever has developed
this particular twit or social networking, they should be held responsible for that, there should be
governance to it. How to instill in to it?
They can only be, I can
give you particular example, for example in china, they have banned the Google,
and nobody can use it. So that is an extreme. Not there should be certain term
via media in which you can block, in case somebody using it in a negative way.
The alert should go to the administrator;
they should further inform the government intelligence
agency who can track the identity from where this particular been originated.
In case this could be developed by the administrator, though it is difficult, but
this technology has to be developed. Otherwise this type of negative social
working or the spreading of certain these things in the negative form will be
really a curse for a particular country, not only for the country but to the
entire world.
Banning in the.. Ban on Youtube, lot of call from the
state. Denial in term led to circumventing the technology rather than making
use of it. So, I think there is another element, education, basic education. My own feeling is, the
state can run parallel program of you know, Singapore has done it for instant, both private sector level and
state level, of correcting people on the
myth about the religion, what religion permit, what it doesn’t permit. In
fact this issue which we were discussing the issue in India, the issue which
actually put you in trouble was beheading and deporting the IS ideology. I see,
there can be Parallel channel, parallel
website, were you know, you can demist or tell them exactly truth, or right
kind of direction, even questions about the religion, religious ideology, community participation all that can
take place. State also has to take
positive role in forming parallel technology and parallel website, parallel
gaming you can say. And Take an extra enthusiasm say, because banning is
never a solution. So, I think state run parallel program, all it can learn from CSO, private sector where
you can counter these things. You know what you have to attack is the basic
idea of spreading, of course short term measure curbing technology, all
checking from where these messages are going on. But I think the solution lies
in the root cause of checking these spreaders are scattered and also countering
the ideology of the extremist. And other issues I would like to bring are the
role of CSO, I think there the role of education comes; role of education in
technology is the very serious avenues, how to prevent, or how to keep the
youth within the limits of the education. So I personally think, it is my
opinion, I would like to know your opinion. How do you think about it, if the state tries to control or channelize
the way as one of the example of Singapore, what would be the implication for
the use of internet and the society in general.
As if Internet being
used in the negative way, the same internet
can be used for the betterment. For example, right form the childhood, the children should be taught about how
to use the internet in a positive way, how to gain knowledge out of it. Instead
of spreading something negative on that internet, that is be actually, right
from the basic, when the child starts learning about the present technology,
right from the beginning, he should be taught about the good things, good social behavior, about the good
point. He should not be made his mind should not be turned towards negative,
for example, the negative games which are coming, those weapons which are
coming. If his mind should be taken off from there, right from the beginning, a
child mind should be developed in to a
positive use of that technology which is available for his age at that
time, so this is about one thing can be done. Second is about the social worker, who should spread the
word all around, what you said rightly the side by side Govt. should also carry
on programs, not only programs in higher age groups, they should start right
from schools, right from when they learn
handling of computer, handling of technologies. Right from that time, he should
be motivated; his mind should be made in to that he should think about positive
not about destruction. Younger generation, what I have seen, with my
experience, still young children they
are motivated towards destruction.
Instead of destruction, his mind should be towards building something. That’s what I say
I completely agree with
what you have said. In Initial I would say, countering should be of the both
level, technical as well as society level. Especially because, the youth is
getting embracing an attempt should be made not only through the program, the messages more attractive so that we can
address the youth. Understanding the
radicalization, as well as how they can use technology and how the things
can be done in positive way. It should be done in individual level, society
level, and state level, all combined together will have to fight the misuse of
technology and spread of terror. So I think the idea or the myth that the terror is spread by the poor
people and debunk. And also the terror doesn’t require any suffice we know
what happened in 9/11 or Mumbai attack.
So I think apart from policing or combined joint policing, all the anti-terror
institution we have setup should work in three level, individual level, society
level and also at the technology level. Unless an integrated reform or strategy is formed, it is very difficult to
any de-radicalization program to succeed. Because you know even money making is
through internet. And the state comes, when these terror organizations become
self-suffice and controlling them becomes even difficult. That is why multi-prong-different level integrated
approach is essential to deal with taking away the youth form radicalization
and misuse of technology for radicalization.
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